The head of the Executive Council of the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria, spoke during a dialogue organized by the ANHA agency, on the occasion of the tenth anniversary of the beginning of July 19e revolution in Rojava, northern and eastern Syria.
During the dialogue, Hassan Koçer spoke about the level of the revolution, the violent attacks under the coordination of the regional parties to put an end to the democratic project, the war and the construction process simultaneously, the need for the Arab-Kurdish agreement and other components to preserve the gains of the revolution, the revolutionary war to protect the gains, and the importance of political circles defining the revolution globally; to be recognized.
Dialog details read:
* How would you describe the July 19 continuitye Revolution, despite the violent attacks at different levels against it, what power underlies this revolution and what does it seek?
first; When we talk about the continuity of the revolution; Revolutions must include strategy, intellectual system and philosophy. More important still, the sacrifices, since the revolts can only continue by issuing slogans.
In describing the revolutions of the 20th century, we can say that they sought to destroy one state and build another. All these revolutions failed to get rid of the question of state and power and served to exclude society, leading to the total collapse of these revolutions, including constructive socialism.
If a revolution seeks continuity; It must first be societal, and therefore on track, on July 19e The revolution was based on a new philosophical concept, which is to build a free and democratic society, not to build a new state and destroy a state, so July 19 should be understoode Revolution, which is totally different from the old revolutions.
Social issues, including women and youth issues, have piled on top of each other and become a social complex, so we need to correct the concept of revolutions to continue the revolution; July 19e The revolution can therefore be described as a course correction of all previous revolutions in the region.
* The philosopher Noam Chomsky described the continuity of the revolution in Rojava as a miracle. What does this mean?
It is an understandable description of the world. When a writer of this magnitude, in the Middle East, speaks in the midst of this war and this devastation and massive attacks, there is no present revolution in this form and in this integrated system, in this great chaos ; So it’s already a miracle.
What is the biggest threat to the revolution today, in your opinion, and how can it be tackled at the local, military and political levels?
The revolution is already locked in internal and external struggle, having spent decades under a system of authoritarian mentality, and it is difficult for society to get rid of this mentality. This constitutes a major obstacle to this revolution, to the awareness and to the political, social and cultural development of the society and the raising of the level of ethics within the society is the main objective of this revolution and the greatest challenge, and to eliminate the authoritarian mentality; Let’s go to the freedom of this society and solve all the pending social problems, but applying this in the field, mistakes appear in a dramatic way, the reason being that the individual always has this authoritarian state of mind, which leads to shortcomings and increased popular criticism of the administration; The revolution therefore faces a major challenge in building a free spirit.
On the other hand, the revolution faces continuous attacks from regional forces; first; Military attacks on northern and eastern Syria by the Turkish state and its mercenary groups. Although the people of the region have waged a war against terrorism and this war has destroyed the Islamic State, the Turkish state – the boss of the Islamic State – seeks revenge on the north and east of Syria. This creates instability and security, thus causing the administration and society to worry about this war, which creates service weakness. In this case, more than half of the budget of northern and eastern Syria is used to support the military forces to respond to the attacks of the Turkish occupation and to protect the region and the gains of the revolution.
July 19e The revolution started in Kobani and today the canton is under Turkish threat. The Turkish state seeks to eliminate the cradle of the revolution and the strategically located city of Manbij, the most important cities in northern and eastern Syria, and to end the democratic project in the region. This can therefore be described as the greatest threat to the revolution.
second; There are other attacks carried out by people linked to Turkey and the Syrian regime in northern and eastern Syria, the aim of which is to sow confusion, weaken the will of society and sow chaos. A suffocating blockade of the region ensues, which is a tool to displace the population and weaken its faith in the revolution. The regional regimes wage a special war against the peoples of the region in all areas; of the spread of drugs and prostitution in society, which led to moral dissolution. We regard this as more serious than a military war. The purpose of regional systems is therefore to end the revolution socially, culturally, morally and politically.
The mechanism for dealing with such attacks, first; an individual must have a strong national consciousness. The Syrian geography in general is under attack from the occupation. second; Our people must act in accordance with the revolutionary war and support their military forces, unite their forces and defend their land, and thirdly; Political circles must work to define the revolution globally in order to be recognized.
* Do you consider that there are coordinated regional attacks between parties in Syria against the democratic project in northern and eastern Syria?
The mentality of nation states in the Middle East is similar, so the languages are different, but it is the states themselves and the power itself; The development of the democratic project in the north and east of Syria would be dangerous for the regimes of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran and others, so we see agreements between these regimes; obstruct this democratic project so that it does not reach other States in the region.
How can this revolution overcome the threats and obstacles to which it is exposed?
The layout of the inner house in the area is very important to counter threats and preserve the fortress from within. The Arab-Kurdish agreement and other elements are very important to preserve the achievements of the revolution. Despite the presence of international and regional forces in Syria, we cannot count on them. These countries have interests in the region and work accordingly and are not charities working for these people. Our people should be well aware of this. The unity of components is the way out of the current crisis.
* Do you think the revolution in Rojava has become a regional revolution or is it still local?
The revolution in Rojava has given great hopes to democrats around the world and I think the revolution in its definition and what it is has also transcended regionalism and turned into universality, everyone is talking about this region, which is the north and east of Syria, and the revolution in the consciousness of most of the people of the world has come, The societies of the Middle East and the West have come to see this revolution. But in practice the scale of the attacks and the States surrounding the revolution and their policies prevent the export of this intellectual system, there is a difficulty, but we work so that this revolution is the property of all humanity.
* How do the world’s political circles read this revolution?
There are democratic, ecological and feminist civil organizations and political movements that have visited northern and eastern Syria, familiarized themselves with the reality of the revolution and are working to study all their areas. also visited political delegations from countries around the world, whose aim was to identify the revolution up close. These circles have realized the reality of the advance of this revolution: they are waging a war against terrorism and the surrounding states, and they are simultaneously making a constructive process, and I do not think that an old or new revolution has worked these lines. Writer Noam Chomsky became familiar with this reality when he described the revolution in Rojava as a miracle. By this ongoing process, we mean both war and construction.
Did the media and the special war waged by the parties to the conflict in Syria and the enemies of the revolution succeed in obscuring the reality of the revolution?
Let’s be realistic. The special war has an impact, but it has not achieved its objectives of hitting the democratic project and ending this revolution, but it has an impact on the propaganda, incitement and defamation of the administration, the Syrian Democratic Forces and Intellectual System in Northern and Eastern Syria. Special warfare works to give another definition of revolution, but I think everyone is becoming aware of the reality of this revolution and the objectives it pursues.